Differences

Kevin McCarthy’s statement

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In response, representative Ted Lieu (D-CA) tweeted the legal code: 18 U.S. Code § 1505: “Whoever…by any threatening letter or communication…endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede…the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any…investigation is being had by either House…Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned…”

My Response.

Kevin McCarthy, Marjie Greene, Matt Gaetz, and even Mitch McConnell’s attempts to gag private companies with undisguised threats puts every American at risk of not knowing the naames and degree of involvement certain politicians had in the attempted insurrection of January 6th 2021. Without this information American citizens are in danger of becoming subjects of a new form of dictatorial Government possibly under an already failed leader Donald Trump where a large part of the population would not even be allowed to vote. The words Surveillance State are used with the purpose of scaring the population who should know that currently there are already laws in place to prevent this happening though I can well forsee that changing in the future id the Republicans regain thhe Majority through their disenfranchisement of so many people. Yesterday the Texas Legislature pass SB1 voting suppression bill which is but one of many across Republican run States. If Companies don’t comply with the Democrat request they will be in violation of Federal Law which is deigned to find proof of wrongdoing in order to protect the U.S. citizens. Again, compliance with the request is within Federal Law and in order to stop compliance the Republicans return to the age old method of threats.

If the filibuster is dropped then the Democrats can stop the voter suppression laws within the states reinstating the right for voters to give the Majority to whom they please, in a fair and fully transparent way. But whatever happens, the enquiry into January 6th should go forward as planned and those involved in the insurrection should be punished without fear or favour as to whom they are and what position they hold. People died and were injured that day, people have died since that day and millions of dollars worth of damage was done. Your politicians from both sides of the aisle were in fear of their lives. Whatever else is said, this was no normal day and no tour group. Whatever it may be, the people deserve the truth.

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26 Responses to Differences

  1. noelleg44 says:

    I have to disagree with you on a few things, David. Any party that threatens private companies to turn over personal information on American citizens is violating my rights, and I oppose it. With regard to voting rights suppression – how I hate that term- no one is suppressing voters’ rights. All these laws ask for is voter ID. Identification is something that you need for virtually everything else you do here, so why is it suppressing votes to ask people for their ID? This could be a good discussion! Hugs!

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    • davidprosser says:

      So far Noelle, the Democrts haven’t made threats to those companies, they’ve requested the information which the law provides for. The threats have come from Marjie Greene. From what I’ve seeen, it’s not just I’D that’s been requested, and where it is I/D it’s difficult to get for many people. There’s a whole lot of removing the right to postal votes, scouring of polling registers, moving polling booths and making votes illegal if cast in the wrong place. Not the hoops you make white people jump through..
      Hugs

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      • noelleg44 says:

        People here know that voting has been manipulated over many years for many elections. JFK’s election comes to mind with regard to Chicago. But the last election takes the cake. Votes coming in by the thousands days after the deadline or ballots being slipped in after the polls are closed. Prevention of counting oversight. Thousands of votes from the military gone missing or the military never given voting options. The places where fraud can occur are myriad. There need to be some rules regarding mail-in voting: How do you know the voter is who he or she claims to be, how long can you accept late ballots – a month, six months?). What about ballot harvesting where a “concerned person” collects ballots from people to deliver to the voting site? How can you ensure ensuring that the person voting in person is who they say they are? Dead people need to be eliminated from the voting rolls. Votes cast in the wrong place are usually held – at least here – until the situation can be rectified.
        States passing laws for voter ID also have put in place ways for people to get IDs.
        People already have IDs for many things that could be used.
        And if black people are so disenfranchised by voter laws, why were the number of votes from blacks so significantly increased in the last election?

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      • davidprosser says:

        When you say people know Noelle, what people do you mean. Because one side says there has been manipulation doesn’t make it so. I can’t go back to JFK’s election but I can go back to the last one with the ‘Big Lie’ We, even over vhere , heard stories of the votes coming in after the deadline, and ballots continuing to come in in after the polls are closed. The thing is, none of this was ever proved. Trump lost in places he didn’t expect to which of course included Republican counties and yet you’d rather take his word that that of the bRepublicans in charge of the process who said everything was done properly and with no irregularities. Counting oversight problems was also shown to be a lie when a video of a demonstration outside one place where violence was threatened showed there were Republican overseers inside with full access. I admit I can’t speak m for whether the Military votes gone missing ior them not getting votes, but again Trump filedc 60 petitions to courts, some appointed by him and others long hed Republican judges. They were all thrown out. The Military leaders would have had something to say had their been irregularities with the votes. People including a lot of Republicans had just turned against Trump having seen what happened durting the previous 4 years. It may be that certain rules would be all the better for changing. But take a close look at this new legislation and see just how it disadvantages a certain section of Society. I don’t believe white is better than black. I hate bigotry of all kinds. Dead people may need to be removed from voter rolls but not those who have simply chosen or been nunable to vote for a few years. You check to see if people are living or dead first. New legislation says votes cast in the wrong place will be nullified. There are a lot of ways cto disadvantage people and they’ve all been used.
        Hugs

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    • jilldennison says:

      I beg to differ, Noelle. The voter suppression laws being passed and proposed in at least 42 states go far beyond simply requiring an ID. They will disenfranchise groups of the elderly (including myself), Blacks and Hispanics, college students, and lower income working parents. They include poll closings, shortening of polling hours, curtailing the use of postal voting and much more. Read the one that Georgia passed, or Texas.

      As for rights to privacy … I support an individual’s right to privacy … up to the point it has the potential to harm others. Anybody involved in the attempted coup on January 6th should be sitting in a prison cell today, for they attempted to stifle our voices, to overthrow a legitimate election and install a power-hungry wanna-be dictator. Read the history of 1933 Germany.

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  2. Good discussion, David. Dem leaders have shown their propensity for witch-hunting. The idea of forcing companies to turn over personal information is against everything most Americans believe. The Democratic party good/Republican party bad rhetoric is just that and should be looked beyond for the truth. Also, if folks would examine the so-called voter suppression bills, the only voters being suppressed are those who don’t have the right to vote.

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    • davidprosser says:

      Both sides play their games John which where it affects other people adversely is wrong.
      At the moment I’m not keen on the term ‘Forcing’ as it hasn’t come to that. But it might be against what most Republican Americans believe in it is still covered for in law. On something as important as this I’d have thought all Americans would want to know the truth.Either to shut further investigations down or to bring to trial anyone who was in part responsible for January 6th.Since all the Republican Politicians did not want an investigation I can only assume they don’t want the truth. I’m not sure that applies to all Republican voters though.
      I try not to be taken in by the Democrat good/Republican bad vibe but sometimes your politicians don’t leave me a choice.Take Ron Johnson in interview about the big lie. On camera he says the Trump side won. Slightly off camera in a whisper he admits it was a Biden victory. There was no election fraud despite much dinero being spent to prove otherwise.
      As regards the suppression. There may be people who don’t have the right to vote, but there’s no need to remove voting stations, remove, the right to postal vote, hit all the Native Americans who don’t drive and can’t get off the reservations, Prevent people being transported to election posts by someone else, not allowing for people to being brought a drink when in lines that go on for hours. Those are just off the top of my head. It’s too much of a generalisation to say none of them have the right to vote.Millions denied by the Republicans who could win all those same voters if the only published some worthwhile policies.
      Hugs friend.

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    • jilldennison says:

      Sorry John, but I have to disagree on the voter suppression bills. Read the one Georgia passed … it is far more restrictive, especially to the elderly, college students, Black & Hispanic voters, and lower-income people. Even I would have a harder time voting next time ’round if my state had passed the same laws as Georgia, Texas and others. Last election gave us the highest turnout in our history, and no, there weren’t large numbers of illegal voters. This is what democracy is … every single person having a voice in our government. 42 states are trying to take that away because … when more people turn out to vote, Republicans don’t fare as well. Ah well, perhaps if they spent time developing policies that actually helped people …

      Not trying to be argumentative, my friend, but this is a hot topic with me, for the very future of this nation rests on people having the right to vote.

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      • Thanks, Jill. I know your position but always good to hear it again. The idea that the bills being passed in the states are designed to reduce turnout may be tested in the courts which is a situation I prefer rather than dire projections. The bills are currently passing in the States so in time they will get to the courts if in fact they (the bills) are the cause of voter suppression. I prefer to wait for hard evidence before I agree with your point of view.

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      • jilldennison says:

        This is what I like about you, John. We can agree to disagree without fits of temper, just two actual adults stating their opinion. Thanks for being the man you are, John.

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      • Yes fits of temper are for kids. Thanks for being your kind of woman too.

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  3. Keith says:

    David, anytime someone’s name is included in a list of names with Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz, it is not something to brag about. As an independent and former Republican voter, I have left several messages and spoken with staff of Messers. McCarthy and McConnell, as well as others. My message is straightforward to beseech them to be the leaders of their party that we need them to be. The GOP is a adrift right now untethered to the truth, facts and lawfulness and it needs to regain better governance. We need these two Macs to lead the GOP back to this path and not kowtow to the more extreme elements in their party. People should pay more attention to the dangerous BS that is being espoused by NC Rep.. Madison Cawthorne, that echoes Trumpian BS about the election. Dangerous is the key word here.

    As for Afghanistan, Biden could have handle things better, but the poor handling of the US efforts in this country date back to Ronald Reagan and Charlie Wilson’s war. Our leaving the Afghan people in a lurch after the Russians were driven out brought in the Pakistan imposed Taliban to Afghanistan. And, it has been downhill ever since. So, every president shares the blame, with George W. Bush getting us deeper into it. Keith

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    • davidprosser says:

      Thanks so much Keith. I know you’ve gone nto great lengths to try and bring the Republican party to a path you think is fair and I think the Country looks better with two fully functioning parties but that at the moment one seems to besidetracked away from performing as they should. A party seemingly so in thrall to such a dangerous, self-important individual is going to find more and more adherents leaving which is good because it should always be Country before Party and those who folllow and promote conspiracy theories generally only have themselves in mind.
      Hugs

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  4. jilldennison says:

    Well said, my friend. It amazes me, reading the comments, that so many people are so very unaware of what is in the voter suppression laws that are being passed by the states. We are failing on a grand scale to educate people about the FACTS, so instead they listen to the likes of Ted Cruz, Kevin McCarthy, etc., who tell them it’s nothing more than just requiring a person to present ID. OH NO … it is so much more than that!!!! Sigh.
    Cwtch

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  5. jilldennison says:

    Reblogged this on Filosofa's Word and commented:
    A view from across the big pond. Why is it that our friends outside the U.S. can so often see our situation with far more clarity than we can? Thank you, David, for an open-eyed view of what is happening here.

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  6. rawgod says:

    Republicans will not be happy until only White Christian Males will have the vote. They think they will then win every election. They might win a few, but everyone will come to realize that they only care about themselves and their too-rich backers. Then whose vote will they take away?

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  7. I can’t really join the discussion because I don’t know your laws enough. But it is a fact that parties should not receive any personal data other than the data of their members. State independent agencies should check this. I would forbid private companies – here corporations – to store data for longer than a year anyway. After that it would ever be proven to ask for further permission. xx Michael

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    • davidprosser says:

      Not knowing the specific law that would cover this, I was grateful for the small clarification by Representirttive Ted Lieu because it specificvally mentions threats to prevent information being forthcoming which is exactly whar Marjie Greene does when she suggests that any firms who supply the data will receive payback.
      The Congress must have the right to subpoena records when conducting an investigation as had Mueller when he was investigating, but given the sustem over there this could no doubt we tied up in court for years.
      Thanks so much for the reblog,
      Hugs

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  8. Interesting discussion!

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