Pride and Shame.

Many times in my life I’ve been proud of my country. Proud to say I’m from the UK A few times I’ve felt great shame. Today is one of those days where if asked where I’m from, I shall say Wales and hope many people don’t know where that is. For the last few days amid the turmoil that is Kabul, following the departure of the President and the melting away of Afghanistan’s army, I have been watching scenes of Afghanis employed by the various occupying armies trying to get aboard aircraft and head for safety before the Taliban arrived.

President Trump agreed a handover to the Taliban though it’s fallen to Joe Biden to achieve it as peacefully as possible. It’s also been the responsibility of each of the occupying forces to evacuate their men and civilians who have been usdeful to them. The Taliban arrived early and panic has set in from those who feel their lives are in danger. I don’t for one minute doubt that as despite all the promises of a blanket forgiveness and no reprisals there will be reprisals. I saw when the Taliban were in charge last time how the non-reprisals worked. A football stadium filled with blood where unmarried mothers were buried up to their necks so they could be stoned, and we’re not talking a few drinks here. A human head used jokingly as a football. Hands severed for thieves, which included children stealing food.. These are largely uneducated men taught through their religion that a certain set of rules prevail which is why those rules will still apply now. That they are the minority and not what the people want is irrelevant. And so, I have been been watching scenes from the airport.

Children passed over the airport fencing or wall to try to save the life of a child when the parent knows he/she will die and it’s likely his/her whole family will be killed as retribution. . Now I’m told that the UK won’t take single children and these must be repatriated to their parents. What harm in accepting a child though I know in America the far right are up in arms at taking anyone at all.

This evening I listened to a well spoken man explain that he whas been a Translator with the British forces for two years and he quietly tole how he could not get his wife and children on a transport as he couldn’t get into the airport. The reporter was apologising as he finished the interview and I swear he was choked because so was I. These people are our allies and that is likely to cost them their lives. We should be finding them and getting trhem out of danger. How can anyone trust us ever again because I certainly won’t.

Hugs to you all for the new week.

About davidprosser

Retired Local Government Officer who started to write at age 60 and hasn't looked back. Writes a humorous diary on the life of a member of the gentry.......and the village he lives in with his sadistic early morning alarm cat Oscar and his wife the formidable Lady J. Oscar even has his own book now, but the writing has stopped.
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35 Responses to Pride and Shame.

  1. Suzassippi says:

    I do not know what to say other than I understand the conflicted feelings of pride and shame.

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  2. Your points are well taken, David. What is needed is to retake the air force base and set up a wider perimeter around the civilian airport. Special forces need to go in and rescue each stranded person. Biden needs to tell the Taliban to back off or there will be consequences and right now forget about the August 31st deadline. Our military doesn’t want to leave Afghanistan until every man woman and child are secure but their hands are tied by the Biden team. Sadly Biden doesn’t have the heart to reverse the decision to get out no matter the cost. So the world will watch in horror as these ignorant men have their way with the innocent population.

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  3. inavukic says:

    It is just so very sad that special efforts are not made by Western countries whom those Afghan interpreters helped through the years. The whole situation breaks my heart.

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  4. Ian Hutson says:

    We, and many others, have been trying to control Afghanistan by “invasion” for centuries and it’s never worked. We ourselves got a very bloody nose there in the “early days” and didn’t learn our lesson. This fresh blood-bath is all over a bit of lithium and cobalt and other things “needed” for the “new” technologies that the peasants the world over must work hard to buy in order to keep the money of the uber-rich well-seasoned. Afghanistan at the moment is a brief glimpse of the true colours of every state on the planet – horrifying, and yet the real question is, what else is going on while we’re all being given fireworks to look at? Robber barons never went away, they just got themselves slightly better table manners, a PR agent apiece – and also got nastier and nastier. I despair because, the world over, the ambition of the peasants (that’s us) is generally not to depose the barons but to become one of them.

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  5. davidprosser says:

    Ah yes, ever since the Wolf of Kabul and Chung with his faithful Clicky Ba tried to keep the Russians out and save Afghganistan for King and for Country.
    I think the Romans found bread and circuses only worked for a short time unless they provided new forms of entertainment, or novel ways of killing. Afghanistan has beaten everyone again but everyone has allowed a minority party to take over the rule and subject it’s own people to be part of the circus if the last time they were in is anything to go by. Maybe the robber barons hope to see what ‘Nasty’ really means.I’d prefer to give them to the Taliban. But if I do, it only allows us to move up with a win on the Euro probably greater than thge £10 I last won.
    Have a good week,
    Hugs

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  6. jilldennison says:

    As I, too, am choked after watching that video clip and reading your poignant words. You’re so right … here there is a contingent, the voice of which is Carlson Tucker, who would prefer not to allow any immigrants … even the babies and children. Yet, these are the same bunch who claim to be pro-life. Somehow I’m having a hard time reconciling this in my mind. Like you, I am convinced the Taliban has NO intention of forgiveness, they have NOT changed over the last 20 years, and blood is just waiting to be shed once we all pull out. I’m puzzled by the UK rejecting single children, though … surely these pose no threat whatsoever? And alas, the US is not one whit better. Sigh. I don’t like where this is heading and we are powerless, it would seem, to even make our voices heard.
    Cwtch

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    • davidprosser says:

      I swear I heard someone say they didn’t want them because they don’t look like us. How? They look like ZZTop who look like us. Many of those who wortked ffor the services had even shaved ther beards and look more like me than I do. The lack of bneard iincidentally won’t wear too well with the all forgiving Taliban. See, even your excuses for not wanting tthem are a little on the thin side. Just how isolationist do you want to get?
      cwtch

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  7. jilldennison says:

    Reblogged this on Filosofa's Word and commented:
    Our friend David has written a short piece that needs no introduction and that, if you are human, will bring a lump to your throat. Thank you, David.

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  8. I a really horrible situation there. But i also have to blame our country, Germany. It seems they had no plan to rescue the people. They had waited on the USA to do that, and also care for them in their own country. ;-( Best wishes, Michael

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  9. acflory says:

    Australia’s ‘effort’ is so pathetic I can’t even bring myself to talk about it. Blood on our hands. 😦

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  10. noelleg44 says:

    Thanks for this thoughtful post. My shame is tripled here in the US. Trump may have decided to pull out of Afghanistan, but for all his bluff and bluster, he had a plan – US citizens and those that had helped us or worked for us first, then all the equipment and finally the military. Biden is an old idiot and a fool. Now we have to listen to lies about how great everything is. Be happy you are not living here. At least the UK and France have managed to get their people out. I am sick thinking of what is going to happen to those left behind with those primitive murderers.

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    • davidprosser says:

      What makes the situation all the more shameful for me is that despite knowing these people have worked with the military for a long time, Tucker Carlson and his Ilk ensure every white supremacist and mean minded bigot is dead set against any allies being allowed in. Over here the people are happy to welccome our allies (in the main), but it seems our Government is less gracious about it.
      Huge Hugs

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  11. The far right here in the US has no compassion at all, David, and most of them call themselves Christians. They hate the teachings of Jesus while professing their devotion. It’s depressing. The fact that our countries were unprepared doesn’t surprise me at all. At least Biden has ramped up efforts to get people out. And I’ll welcome them.

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  12. yvettecarol says:

    It’s absolutely heartbreaking to watch it unfold. The situation is a catastrophe for all involved. Here in New Zealand, the Prime Minister told us today that they have gotten all the NZ people on the ground out of the country. But, what about everyone else? So sad. A timely article, David. Huge hugs!

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  13. SD Gates says:

    Hi David, so good to “see” you. I can’t imagine what it must be like for those people over there, knowing they will be trapped and no one is doing anything about it. And the Taliban is talking a game of tolerance, but I fear they talk the talk – but will not walk the walk when the 31st of August rolls around.

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    • davidprosser says:

      This ISIS K is part of the Taliban though an even less tolerant bit so we can already see what’s in store for those who don’t get away. Over 100 Afghanis dead as well as 13 American Army personnel. We haven’t even reached the deadline yet. I don’t think there was an intent to walk the walk. I was glad to see ttoday that Hilary Clinton has been chartering planes to try and help women to get away as they may suffer more once the allies have left. Typical thaat the fim Blackwater have been offering seats at a large price few Afghanis can afford. Nive to see you too.
      Hugs

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  14. There is no glory to be had anywhere with this shambles David and it is appalling that we have been sending back nearly empty planes whilst thousands try to get through. You can never win when experts at guerilla warfare bide their time.. The British and then the Russians tried to tame this wild land and all we seem to have done is paid billions into spurious projects and secret bank accounts whilst those who are the generous and warm people who have lived under the yoke of invaders and their own rapid militants must now suffer again. Man’s inhumanity to man. hugsxx

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    • davidprosser says:

      Exactly right Sally, and another occasion where a minority gets to rule the majority in the name of Religion. Then they use the savagery of religious laws to punish people for the slightest infractions. It’s even possible that they’re not all Afghanis.I can see the first thing to go will be any education for women and they’ll have to give up jobs.Thank heavens for Hillary Clinton.
      Massive Hugs

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  15. We were so completely taken by surprise. As late as Thursday evening I heard three academic ‘experts’ on BBC World Service insisting on the one hand it was unlikely the Taliban would reach Kabul before winter,and on the other their supply lines wouldn’t stretch to occupation of more than half the country. Two days later the whole country fell. I still insist Biden chose the worst time of the year. Earlier, the farmers, who form most of the Taliban on the ground, would have been more interested in their harvest, later, and winter would have made mobility difficult. He underestimated them, colossally. It seems we all did. I don’t think you need to feel shame – we could do no other than follow the US lead; they were running the airport, the main military presence was theirs. As for the ‘refugee orphans’, I am not sure. The stories about women ‘throwing their babies over the razor wire’ to the soldiers – if true – seem to me to say a lot about the parents. And I’m not certain where I stand on that. Hugs

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    • davidprosser says:

      I saw plenty of footage of the babies going up and over. The panic of the parents in trying to ensure the survival of some little wraiths shows the degree of panic as to what the Taliban might extract from those who worked with the ‘enemy’. I have no faith in the ‘no reprisals’ promise.
      Hugs

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  16. No, the Taliban give little enough evidence of their humanity. hugs

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